we in the business community are demanding it. >> there was a study of defense manufacturing sector, and found we would lose a million jobs if the defense cuts take place. >> the worse is nothing happens or they kick the can down the road. >>neil: you warned about the layoffs, how big will the numbers be? >> overall it could be a million jobs which would be fairly immediate. >> almost like we will pull the pin from the grow made and say, well, let's see how long it takes to explode and then we will figure out how much time we have after everything blows up. >> until there are jobs and certainty in consumer and business environment we will go through this for a while until the leadership of our country clears a path and creates certainty. >>neil: consumers could be downsized. >> they do not have certainty in a job they will not be buying tv's and refrigerators that help move the economy along. >> he is trying to extend an olive branch. >>neil: at white house it is intimidating and i think the guys loaded for bear, get to the white house and they are ready to let him have it and they f